Done did it again, new sub

JamminWagon · 02-29-2008, 11:57 PM

Most have seen the 12" Treo SSi that I have had for about 2 years.

The Treo is dying, wont play at low vol until it warms up.
I went looking at the Alpine (im an Alpine nut, see signature haha) R-Series 12" but the rms rating on it is only 500wrms.
The Alpine MRD-M605 puts out 600wrms(661wrms tested). Soo not good. Didnt want to spend the $450 for a sub again.
$350 for the 15" R-series wasnt too bad, so I finally decided to say the heck with it and wait for it to go totally.

One of my "usuals" is hitting the pawnshops around here on payday to see if there are any good deals.

Found this 15 R-series for $150.

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I checked out with an ohm meter to make sure there wasnt any deadspots in the excursion and looks like a winner. I was in uniform from when I got off of
work and there was a gentleman in there that had a load of coupons that the pawn shop put in phone book. He hands me a 20% off coupon. So with tax it came to $127.20

Playing around with the same box I have had forever it seems.

It's cuttin time!!!

JamminWagon · 02-29-2008, 11:57 PM

OK 2 hours later, the carpeting is temp, I am still trying to figure out what I want to so do with it. The reason it looks like 2 different shades is that the grain is reversed on one.

A side by side comparison

One nice thing about the Alpine is that the polepiece vent is setup to go to the sides. This way you dont have to have the space behind the magnet.
Thank goodness!!! I had 1/16" spave haha. I put a 1/16" foam pad in the box where the magnet would be. With this setup, I don't even need a brace for the 44# sub.

With the amp cover up

And with the amp cover down.

And a 4 way comparison, took pic at night and flash.

I am totally impressed with the Sub. I had 2 S-Series 10s when I started and thought they were good, then the Treo blew them away and now the 15".

The box is on the upper end of the recommended sealed volume, (1.3-2.5ft3 max and this winds you being 2.3ft3). I never really liked 15"s wayyy back
when I statered getting into car audio. They sounded "sloppy" but this one sounds pretty good. The optimum volume is 1.75ft3. I might play with the
idea of putting some wood in there to get to 1.75ft3. I think that it might make it sound even "tighter".

The Treo is a fantastic sub, but the poor thing had to work like crazy

http://www.youtube.com/v/b18e_nMC9X8 Esp at 20 secs

I played the same music at the same level and the thing moves only about 1/2" at the very most. The other thing I noticed is that my lights dont dim anymore!
I wish I would have measured the current on the amp (display) with the Treo and compared. I think there might be something there haha.

Now the only thing is that I used to protect the Treo with the speaker ring and just have to be careful now until I figure someting out.

Its midnight adn time to get my beauty sleep!
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MadDad · 03-01-2008, 04:44 AM

Looks great! I always loved hittin' the pawn shops -- especially when I was closer to an army post

Rickeyboi · 03-01-2008, 09:43 AM

Dang the pics wont show up while I'm at work...it will have to wait till I get to the house

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDad

Looks great! I always loved hittin' the pawn shops -- especially when I was closer to an army post

All you had to do was go to the PX and see someones wife selling all her husbands stuff because he got deployed. This was like an everyday thing down at FT Stewart...damn women can be so wrong

Magmania · 03-01-2008, 09:59 AM

I'm not a big audio guy by any means but I love your set up.
Very nice. You always have good write ups with illustrations.

MagWag · 03-01-2008, 10:14 AM

that is def a sweeet setup u got there!

4rwheeler · 03-01-2008, 11:02 AM

Looks great. Should wake the neighbors.

JRob007 · 03-01-2008, 11:10 AM

^^^ LOL! Looks great there man!!!!

dformer · 03-01-2008, 11:45 AM

Good choice. Im trying to do the exact same thing with 2 of those alpine type r's!

JamminWagon · 03-01-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dformer

Good choice. Im trying to do the exact same thing with 2 of those alpine type r's!

Here is the dimensions of the box I am using. The volume is around 2.4ft3. I had to do a lil bit of work on the inside. I had to take about 1/8" off the area where the box goes up to go overthe battert (right side).

02-29-2008, 11:57 PM	#1
JamminWagon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cheyenne, WY Posts: 971 iTrader: (0)	Done did it again, new sub Most have seen the 12" Treo SSi that I have had for about 2 years. The Treo is dying, wont play at low vol until it warms up. I went looking at the Alpine (im an Alpine nut, see signature haha) R-Series 12" but the rms rating on it is only 500wrms. The Alpine MRD-M605 puts out 600wrms(661wrms tested). Soo not good. Didnt want to spend the $450 for a sub again. $350 for the 15" R-series wasnt too bad, so I finally decided to say the heck with it and wait for it to go totally. One of my "usuals" is hitting the pawnshops around here on payday to see if there are any good deals. Found this 15 R-series for $150. . I checked out with an ohm meter to make sure there wasnt any deadspots in the excursion and looks like a winner. I was in uniform from when I got off of work and there was a gentleman in there that had a load of coupons that the pawn shop put in phone book. He hands me a 20% off coupon. So with tax it came to $127.20 Playing around with the same box I have had forever it seems. It's cuttin time!!!
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02-29-2008, 11:57 PM	#2
JamminWagon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cheyenne, WY Posts: 971 iTrader: (0)	OK 2 hours later, the carpeting is temp, I am still trying to figure out what I want to so do with it. The reason it looks like 2 different shades is that the grain is reversed on one. A side by side comparison One nice thing about the Alpine is that the polepiece vent is setup to go to the sides. This way you dont have to have the space behind the magnet. Thank goodness!!! I had 1/16" spave haha. I put a 1/16" foam pad in the box where the magnet would be. With this setup, I don't even need a brace for the 44# sub. With the amp cover up And with the amp cover down. And a 4 way comparison, took pic at night and flash. I am totally impressed with the Sub. I had 2 S-Series 10s when I started and thought they were good, then the Treo blew them away and now the 15". The box is on the upper end of the recommended sealed volume, (1.3-2.5ft3 max and this winds you being 2.3ft3). I never really liked 15"s wayyy back when I statered getting into car audio. They sounded "sloppy" but this one sounds pretty good. The optimum volume is 1.75ft3. I might play with the idea of putting some wood in there to get to 1.75ft3. I think that it might make it sound even "tighter". The Treo is a fantastic sub, but the poor thing had to work like crazy http://www.youtube.com/v/b18e_nMC9X8 Esp at 20 secs I played the same music at the same level and the thing moves only about 1/2" at the very most. The other thing I noticed is that my lights dont dim anymore! I wish I would have measured the current on the amp (display) with the Treo and compared. I think there might be something there haha. Now the only thing is that I used to protect the Treo with the speaker ring and just have to be careful now until I figure someting out. Its midnight adn time to get my beauty sleep! __________________ Last edited by JamminWagon; 03-01-2008 at 12:01 AM..
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03-01-2008, 09:59 AM	#5
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03-01-2008, 04:44 AM	#3
MadDad BWAAAAAAHHHHH! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Christiansburg, VA Posts: 4,235 iTrader: (0)	Looks great! I always loved hittin' the pawn shops -- especially when I was closer to an army post

03-01-2008, 11:10 AM	#8
JRob007 BakNdaHood... CM4Lyf! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,540 iTrader: (0)	^^^ LOL! Looks great there man!!!!
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