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    Coilovers or Springs?

    Ok here's a not so long story made short. I picked my SRT8 Magnum up at the Beginning of last year an I put a set of Eibach front & rear sway bars, BC Racing coilovers & a staggered set of Viper Reps.

    I like the way she sits but I'm not happy with the ride the rear is not as tight as I would like.

    So I'm really thinking about taking the coilovers out an picking up a set of springs now the question I have is what kind of springs will give me a nice low Aggressive stance?

    Need help!
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    Do you have the extenders for the rear so you can make adjustments easily ? If not, you'll have to remove em to change it. BCs get plenty stiff. Mine are set to 27 out of 30 and it almost beats me to death over bumps. The cornering and handling are phenomenal though.
    Just slam it.
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    I assume that you included the rear damping adjusters when you install the BCRs. I have them and can get the rear more than tight enough if set to full firm. If it's not the damper firmness you're talking about, the rear may not be as tight as you would like because of the cradle bushings and the rear control arm bushings. They are soft and the rear can get a bit loose. The car can feel like the rear is stepping out at times. You may need to think about replacing the bushings.

    FYI - I've had spring/damper set ups and they don't handle as well as the BCR coilovers.



    Last edited by Fireman2118; 01-22-2014 at 10:10 PM.

    '05 R/T

    PPP stage 3 big valve heads - Howards cam 219/227 .600/.575 112 LSA (108 ICL) - PAC 1518 springs - forged pushrods - 6.1 lifters - 6.1 oil pump - 6.1 timing set - Modern Muscle stage 1+ ported 6.1 manifold
    & 85mm throttle body - 6.1 fuel injectors - 6.1 fuel rails - 25% UDP - Jet 180 tstat - LMI 4" true CAI - MSD "Blaster" coils - 8.2mm Taylor wires - JBA headers - JBA high flow mids - Corsa catback - Diablosport Intune
    Paramount series 55, stage 1 transmission, "Dominator" 3000 stall tc & stage II valve body - Tranzformer shift kit - B&M Hi-Tek transmission cooler - 226mm Getrag 3.91 LSD - BC racing coilovers - Eibach front & rear sways
    Prothane & Whiteline bushing kit - BWoody endlinks - Razors Edge strut bar - Wilwood big brake kit by TCE - W6A 6 piston front calipers on 14.25" 2 piece GT rotors - Dynapro 4 piston rear calipers on 13" 2 piece GT rotors
    Trufiber Challenger A58 carbon fiber hood - Vossen VVS-CV3 & Nitto 420s - 22" x 9" w/265/35/22 & 22" x 10.5" w/295/30/22 - tuning by Ditos motors ---- Hemi Registry #943


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    Frost,

    I do have the extenders for the rear but have not put them in yet. What is the best way to install them form the outside in or the inside out?

    Fireman2118,

    Ok if I keep my BCRs I should check the damper firmness with in the BCRs? An as far as the cradle bushing if I do replace them should I go with stock or should I run with better after market ones as well as rear control arm bushings.

    I value both your opinions so please advise an don't be shy! I need to correct this problem before the spring! I also have some Performance parts to put on so I want put these 2 Projects to bed before I start another! So Thank You for all your help in advance...
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    I run my damper settings at 2/3 firm. (20 out of 30) I like the feel of the road. You can also get Pedders or White line bushings for the rear cradle which are much better.




    '05 R/T

    PPP stage 3 big valve heads - Howards cam 219/227 .600/.575 112 LSA (108 ICL) - PAC 1518 springs - forged pushrods - 6.1 lifters - 6.1 oil pump - 6.1 timing set - Modern Muscle stage 1+ ported 6.1 manifold
    & 85mm throttle body - 6.1 fuel injectors - 6.1 fuel rails - 25% UDP - Jet 180 tstat - LMI 4" true CAI - MSD "Blaster" coils - 8.2mm Taylor wires - JBA headers - JBA high flow mids - Corsa catback - Diablosport Intune
    Paramount series 55, stage 1 transmission, "Dominator" 3000 stall tc & stage II valve body - Tranzformer shift kit - B&M Hi-Tek transmission cooler - 226mm Getrag 3.91 LSD - BC racing coilovers - Eibach front & rear sways
    Prothane & Whiteline bushing kit - BWoody endlinks - Razors Edge strut bar - Wilwood big brake kit by TCE - W6A 6 piston front calipers on 14.25" 2 piece GT rotors - Dynapro 4 piston rear calipers on 13" 2 piece GT rotors
    Trufiber Challenger A58 carbon fiber hood - Vossen VVS-CV3 & Nitto 420s - 22" x 9" w/265/35/22 & 22" x 10.5" w/295/30/22 - tuning by Ditos motors ---- Hemi Registry #943


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    Fireman2118,

    The dampers are within the BCRs, right? I'm going to look in to the bushings tonight!
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    Quote: Originally Posted by TheBlack1 View Post
    Fireman2118,

    The dampers are within the BCRs, right?
    Correct. The dampers are shocks. At the top of each shock is a damping adjustment knob. Full counter clockwise is full soft and full clockwise is full firm. 30 positions from full soft to full firm.




    '05 R/T

    PPP stage 3 big valve heads - Howards cam 219/227 .600/.575 112 LSA (108 ICL) - PAC 1518 springs - forged pushrods - 6.1 lifters - 6.1 oil pump - 6.1 timing set - Modern Muscle stage 1+ ported 6.1 manifold
    & 85mm throttle body - 6.1 fuel injectors - 6.1 fuel rails - 25% UDP - Jet 180 tstat - LMI 4" true CAI - MSD "Blaster" coils - 8.2mm Taylor wires - JBA headers - JBA high flow mids - Corsa catback - Diablosport Intune
    Paramount series 55, stage 1 transmission, "Dominator" 3000 stall tc & stage II valve body - Tranzformer shift kit - B&M Hi-Tek transmission cooler - 226mm Getrag 3.91 LSD - BC racing coilovers - Eibach front & rear sways
    Prothane & Whiteline bushing kit - BWoody endlinks - Razors Edge strut bar - Wilwood big brake kit by TCE - W6A 6 piston front calipers on 14.25" 2 piece GT rotors - Dynapro 4 piston rear calipers on 13" 2 piece GT rotors
    Trufiber Challenger A58 carbon fiber hood - Vossen VVS-CV3 & Nitto 420s - 22" x 9" w/265/35/22 & 22" x 10.5" w/295/30/22 - tuning by Ditos motors ---- Hemi Registry #943


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    This is with the extenders installed. Not sure if you have seen them on the Mag.
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    Fireman2118,

    Thank you again for the big tips! I feel much better about keeping my BCRs now. I'm working on a Laundry list on things getting done an the list is getting longer by the day.

    Smack,

    Thanks for the photos. Is it hard to install them?
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    Quote: Originally Posted by TheBlack1 View Post
    Fireman2118,

    Thank you again for the big tips! I feel much better about keeping my BCRs now. I'm working on a Laundry list on things getting done an the list is getting longer by the day.

    Smack,

    Thanks for the photos. Is it hard to install them?
    No, pretty easy.....

    SRT8 BCR Coilover Install/Review




    '05 R/T

    PPP stage 3 big valve heads - Howards cam 219/227 .600/.575 112 LSA (108 ICL) - PAC 1518 springs - forged pushrods - 6.1 lifters - 6.1 oil pump - 6.1 timing set - Modern Muscle stage 1+ ported 6.1 manifold
    & 85mm throttle body - 6.1 fuel injectors - 6.1 fuel rails - 25% UDP - Jet 180 tstat - LMI 4" true CAI - MSD "Blaster" coils - 8.2mm Taylor wires - JBA headers - JBA high flow mids - Corsa catback - Diablosport Intune
    Paramount series 55, stage 1 transmission, "Dominator" 3000 stall tc & stage II valve body - Tranzformer shift kit - B&M Hi-Tek transmission cooler - 226mm Getrag 3.91 LSD - BC racing coilovers - Eibach front & rear sways
    Prothane & Whiteline bushing kit - BWoody endlinks - Razors Edge strut bar - Wilwood big brake kit by TCE - W6A 6 piston front calipers on 14.25" 2 piece GT rotors - Dynapro 4 piston rear calipers on 13" 2 piece GT rotors
    Trufiber Challenger A58 carbon fiber hood - Vossen VVS-CV3 & Nitto 420s - 22" x 9" w/265/35/22 & 22" x 10.5" w/295/30/22 - tuning by Ditos motors ---- Hemi Registry #943


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    Fireman2118,

    Again you are the man!!
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    What else can I do to tighten up my suspension ?

    I tend to drive pretty hard an fast an could always use some help via car parts!
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    If you haven't done so already, aftermarket sway bars REALLY help in reducing body roll. I use Eibach front and rear sway bars with BWoody end links. Hotchkis makes outstanding sway bars too.




    '05 R/T

    PPP stage 3 big valve heads - Howards cam 219/227 .600/.575 112 LSA (108 ICL) - PAC 1518 springs - forged pushrods - 6.1 lifters - 6.1 oil pump - 6.1 timing set - Modern Muscle stage 1+ ported 6.1 manifold
    & 85mm throttle body - 6.1 fuel injectors - 6.1 fuel rails - 25% UDP - Jet 180 tstat - LMI 4" true CAI - MSD "Blaster" coils - 8.2mm Taylor wires - JBA headers - JBA high flow mids - Corsa catback - Diablosport Intune
    Paramount series 55, stage 1 transmission, "Dominator" 3000 stall tc & stage II valve body - Tranzformer shift kit - B&M Hi-Tek transmission cooler - 226mm Getrag 3.91 LSD - BC racing coilovers - Eibach front & rear sways
    Prothane & Whiteline bushing kit - BWoody endlinks - Razors Edge strut bar - Wilwood big brake kit by TCE - W6A 6 piston front calipers on 14.25" 2 piece GT rotors - Dynapro 4 piston rear calipers on 13" 2 piece GT rotors
    Trufiber Challenger A58 carbon fiber hood - Vossen VVS-CV3 & Nitto 420s - 22" x 9" w/265/35/22 & 22" x 10.5" w/295/30/22 - tuning by Ditos motors ---- Hemi Registry #943


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    Fireman2118 I already have Eibach Sways.

    So BWoody end links should be my next move?
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    Quote: Originally Posted by TheBlack1 View Post
    Fireman2118 I already have Eibach Sways.

    So BWoody end links should be my next move?
    Maybe some sort of upgraded end links if not the BWoody. Also, do you have a front strut tower bar? The Razorsedge/Speedlogix bar is a premium piece. I've used it for years and really like it.




    '05 R/T

    PPP stage 3 big valve heads - Howards cam 219/227 .600/.575 112 LSA (108 ICL) - PAC 1518 springs - forged pushrods - 6.1 lifters - 6.1 oil pump - 6.1 timing set - Modern Muscle stage 1+ ported 6.1 manifold
    & 85mm throttle body - 6.1 fuel injectors - 6.1 fuel rails - 25% UDP - Jet 180 tstat - LMI 4" true CAI - MSD "Blaster" coils - 8.2mm Taylor wires - JBA headers - JBA high flow mids - Corsa catback - Diablosport Intune
    Paramount series 55, stage 1 transmission, "Dominator" 3000 stall tc & stage II valve body - Tranzformer shift kit - B&M Hi-Tek transmission cooler - 226mm Getrag 3.91 LSD - BC racing coilovers - Eibach front & rear sways
    Prothane & Whiteline bushing kit - BWoody endlinks - Razors Edge strut bar - Wilwood big brake kit by TCE - W6A 6 piston front calipers on 14.25" 2 piece GT rotors - Dynapro 4 piston rear calipers on 13" 2 piece GT rotors
    Trufiber Challenger A58 carbon fiber hood - Vossen VVS-CV3 & Nitto 420s - 22" x 9" w/265/35/22 & 22" x 10.5" w/295/30/22 - tuning by Ditos motors ---- Hemi Registry #943


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